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BlokWatch
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Registered: Oct 2002 Location: Columbia, SC Country: United States State: SC Certifications: A+ Net+ MCP Working on:
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quote: Originally posted by mikop
forget about mcse, the thing I find really funny about it is his put down of programmers...
I wonder if the programmers who developed the RSA encryption algorithm went any further than high school algebra?
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01-10-03 07:20 AM
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mikop
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01-10-03 07:22 AM
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sunshells
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Wow, a person ask a question and states his opinion and you're
all ready to blow him away...scary...
feels like road rage in here
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01-10-03 08:43 AM
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thecomeons
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didn't i read something about the canadian's not liking the "engineer" in mcse?
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01-10-03 08:56 AM
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mikop
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01-10-03 09:16 AM
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cm2gj
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Registered: Jan 2002 Location: Mexico Country: Mexico State: Certifications: MCP 2k, MCSA 2k, MCSE 2k, A+, CST, eTRUST, HPSAN (STAR) Working on: N+, CNST, MCSE 2003
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quote: Originally posted by SomeGuy
Not being rude. It's not "just a question". This thread is an attack on everyone in this forum that claims MCSE status, including you Alex (once you finish your tests). Basically he is saying he is insulted because you claim the title you have.
I haven't given any personal insults back to Tennman, or returned an attack on him, but I have attacked the post itself which I personally find offensive.
I'm sure there are those here surprised by my objection, since I myself have spoken of the limitations of the MCSE and my lack of adoration for the certification. But you don't come in here and tell anyone that their title isn't earned without just cause. That is unwelcome here.
ah ok someguy.
i spend TOO many hours studyng for this exams...... as HARD as the brain just i need in the past for my Audio Engineering and Electronics, etc.
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01-10-03 11:36 AM
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SomeGuy
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Registered: Aug 2000 Location: Bremerton Country: USA State: Certifications: A+ Working on: Network+, I-Net+, CIW
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quote: Wow, a person ask a question and states his opinion and you're
all ready to blow him away...scary...
Not all questions and opinions are allowed here. That may sound harsh, but what if a person's opinion is that you are an idiot, and their question is why you should be allowed to live?
In other words, an insult and a flame can be put within an opinion or question, and it's still an insult and a flame.
Let me boil it down... This is not an innocent question. Tennman is saying that he is insulted that MCSEs call themselves engineers. The question "why are they called engineers" is simply rhetorical, not a legitimate question, because he answers his own question later in his post. He then (rather ignorantly) states why MCSEs do not deserve the title of engineer.
When I was Network+ moderator, my first job was to keep posts and attitudes like this out of the forum. While I am no longer a moderator of any forum here, I do know what kind of behavior isn't welcome or productive.
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01-10-03 04:24 PM
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Registered: Aug 2000 Location: Country: USA State: Certifications: MA, M.Ed., Net+,I-Net+, Security+, CEH, CEI, CCA, CCNA, MCP+I, MCSA, MCSE NT 4.0, MCSE 2000, MCT Working on: MCSE 2K3, Linux+, CISSP
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quote: Originally posted by thecomeons
didn't i read something about the canadian's not liking the "engineer" in mcse?
You;re right. The Canadian society of Engineers, or whatever those losers call themselves, decided that the "E" in MCSE should not stand for Engineers. I think they wanted it to stand for Expert instead. Like anybody gives a crap...
AS for the original post, you have an AS and you want to redo the world? Get a real degree and we'll talk. In the mean time, learn what you are attacking. An MCSE is not a programmer. Punk. Troll. So there 
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01-10-03 04:37 PM
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enforcer
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Registered: Jun 2002 Location: Wembley - Home of the big arch Country: United Kingdom State: Certifications: MCSE NT4, MCP 2K Working on: MCSE 2K 216,217 MCSA 2K 218
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01-10-03 04:49 PM
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Paisleyskye
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Registered: Aug 2000 Location: Picton Country: Canada State: Certifications: A+, MCSE, MOUS Working on: I have no idea what I'll do next
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The fact of the matter is, that the arguement in Canada first appeard for Novell's NCE, and then the arguement came up again for the MCSE in Canada.
The way it's all worked out - well, Novell's NCE's can still call themselves Engineers here and MCSE's can still call themselves Engineers here.
Fact of the matter is that we all feel that the Electronics Engineers have big egos and heads that cause them to believe they are Gods and have a right to try to dismantle other corporations certs - but when it comes to the actual battle - they don't have a leg to stand on.
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